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As national signing day approaches, I thought it would be a good idea to take a look at all 72 recruits signed by Jimbo Fisher as head coach of the Florida State Seminoles.
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My overall impression is that the retention rate has been quite high.
Perhaps too high.
Top programs have to churn the roster and do not let underachievers hang around for too long. They convince them to transfer out, graduate early, or take a medical disqualification (the player's tuition is footed by the school, but he does not count against the 85 limit).
Of course, as we've previously discussed, FSU's APR score was seriously damaged by the nonsense under the Bowden regime, and those bad years are just now coming off the rolling, multi-year calculation. That meant that FSU could not process out as many kids as it wanted in previous years. The APR has improved a lot because kids are going to class much more often now and the cheating scandal from 2007 is coming off the books. Kids are graduating at a much higher frequency.
By my count, there are roughly 10 players who could be processed without any negative impact to the on-field product. I would expect FSU to take more than 50 players between the 2013 and 2014 classes.
What happened to the 72 players signed under head coach Jimbo Fisher? | ||||
Name | Pos | Rating | Status | Note |
The 2010 recruiting class | ||||
Lamarcus Joyner | DB | 5 stars | On Track | 3-year starter at safety. All-Conference |
Christian Jones | LB | 5 stars | On Track | 3-year starter at linebacker |
Jeff Luc | LB | 4 stars | Transferred | Battled injury, poor coaching, etc. and did not grasp defense. Transferred to Cincinnati |
Kenny Shaw | WR | 4 stars | On Track | In receiver rotation for three years. Part-time starter. |
Christian Green | WR | 4 stars | On Track | Redshirted as freshman, promising second season, non-factor as RS-Soph |
Darious Cummings | DE | 4 stars | Transferred | Could not crack rotation, transferred to JUCO, signed with UF |
Greg Dent | WR | 4 stars | On Track | In receiver rotation for three years. Part-time starter. |
Telvin Smith | LB | 4 stars | On Track | Part-time starter 2011-12, in line to start 2013 |
Mike Harris | DB | 4 stars | Complete | Part-time starter 2010-2011, 6th round NFL Draft |
De'Joshua Johnson | WR | 4 stars | Did not qualify | Misled coaches about his academics, failed to qualify, arrested multiple times after |
Jarred Haggins | WR | 3 stars | On Track | In receiver rotation for three years. Part-time starter. Often injured. |
Chad Abram | DB | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve defensive back moved to reserve fullback. May be starter at fullback in 2013. |
Terrence Brooks | DB | 3 stars | On Track | Starter at safety 2012-2013 |
Holmes Onwukaife | LB | 3 stars | Medical DQ | Battled injury, couldn't crack rotation, medical DQ. |
Damien Jacobs | DT | 3 stars | Did not qualify | Failed to qualify, went to JUCO, signed with UF. |
Tank Sessions | TE | 3 stars | Medical DQ | Couldn't crack rotation, injured, medical DQ |
Dan Foose | OL | 3 stars | On Track | Oft-injured lineman has not cracked rotation. |
Debrale Smiley | RB | 3 stars | Complete | Reserve fullback from JUCO, played sparingly, didn't cause problems. |
Cameron Erving | DT | 3 stars | On Track | Sleeper defensive tackle has blossomed into a very good player both at defensive tackle and now at offensive tackle. |
Nigel Terrell | LB | 3 stars | On Track | Athletic linebacker from Birmingham, Terrell has not added much muscle and has not cracked the rotation. |
Clint Trickett | QB | 3 stars | On Track | Backup quarterback has had mixed results when filling in for an injured E.J. Manuel. In the running to start in 2013. |
Will Tye | TE | 3 stars | On Track | Bust. Tye never grasped the offense or fully dedicated himself the way one needs to do to succeed at Florida State. |
Bjoern Werner | DE | 3 stars | Early NFL | Superstar. Werner was a quality sub in 2010, and started in 2011 and 2012, playing at an All-American level. Will be high NFL draft pick in April. |
Anthony McCloud | DT | 3 stars | Complete | Starter of more than 30 games at nose guard. Has a shot to make an NFL roster. |
The 2011 recruiting class | ||||
Karlos Williams | DB | 5 stars | On Track | Amazing athlete, struggled to grasp the defense at first, and is blocked by Lamarcus Joyner and Terrence Brooks at safety. Played some linebacker later in the year and did well. The move could stick. |
James Wilder Jr. | RB | 5 stars | On Track | Excellent athlete, Wilder has slowly grown into the running back role, and will be tasked with a heavy carry load in 2013. Has been arrested at least twice, not for malicious things, but criminal offenses nonetheless. |
Timmy Jernigan | DT | 4 stars | On Track | Jernigan is a very good defensive tackle for Florida State. His sophomore slump consisted of merely maintaining his level from 2010, which is a win for the Seminoles. |
Cornellius Carradine | DE | 4 stars | Complete | Excellent defensive end in 2011 and 2012, tore his knee in late November, should still be drafted in decent position all things considered. |
Nick O'Leary | TE | 4 stars | On Track | Solid tight end could see his role in the offense increase with a change at quarterback and another year in the offense. |
Kelvin Benjamin | WR | 4 stars | On Track | Super talented receiver battled work ethic and maturity issues, but after a redshirt year, got on the field in 2012. Had a productive, but inconsistent year. Still a work in progress. |
Bobby Hart | OL | 4 stars | On Track | Very young offensive lineman battled work ethic and maturity issues. Started some in 2011 when he should have been redshirting due to a ridiculous amount of injuries. WIll be a 19-year old junior in 2013. |
Jacob Fahrenkrug | OL | 4 stars | Complete | Started some in 2011, none in 2012. Reserve level offensive lineman who battled injuries. |
Rashad Greene | WR | 4 stars | On Track | Florida State's best receiver as a freshman and sophomore. Greene should only see his role increase in 2013. |
Nile Lawrence-Stample | DT | 4 stars | On Track | Wide-bodied defensive tackle should see more snaps in 2013. Redshirted in 2011, played some as a reserve in 2012. |
Josue Matias | OL | 4 stars | On Track | Started the last 15 games at guard, should continue to do so for the next two seasons. |
Derrick Mitchell | DT | 4 stars | On Track | Redshirted, then injured his back and will see his first game action in 2013. |
Giorgio Newberry | DE | 4 stars | On Track | Development has been slow, but will see significant snaps in 2013. |
Devonta Freeman | RB | 4 stars | On Track | Solid part-time starter at running back in both 2011 and 2012. |
Nick Waisome | DB | 4 stars | On Track | Starter at field corner in 2012 when Greg Reid was dismissed from the program. |
Tyler Hunter | DB | 3 stars | On Track | Starter at nickel corner in 2012. |
Eric Beverly | RB | 3 stars | Medical DQ | Beverly battled injuries and was medically disqualified before the season. |
Jordan Prestwood | OL | 3 stars | Transferred | Prestwood was a headcase who transferred before he even made it through a spring practice to be with his buddy Aaron Lynch at Notre Dame, then became homesick and left Notre Dame and is now enrolling at UCF. |
Keelin Smith | DB | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve defensive back could see time in 2013. Redshirted in 2011. |
Terrance Smith | LB | 3 stars | On Track | Smith will contend for a starting job in 2013. Red-shirted in 2011. |
Jacob Coker | QB | 3 stars | On Track | Promising QB recruit redshirted in 2011 and will contend for starting job in 2013. |
Sterling Lovelady | OL | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve offensive lineman who, like others, didn't redshirt in 2011 due to crazy offensive line injuries. |
Trey Pettis | OL | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve offensive lineman, has battled some injuries. Many question whether he wants to play football, or if he continues to do so to please those close to him. |
Ruben Carter | OL | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve offensive lineman. Redshirted in 2011. |
Tre Jackson | DT | 3 stars | On Track | Jackson started the last 15 games and is in line to be a three-year starter. Good player. |
Terry Bell | DT | 3 stars | Did not qualify | Sign-&-place. Was not expected to qualify. |
Lamarcus Brutus | DB | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve defensive back. Redshirted in 2011. |
Arrington Jenkins | LB | 3 stars | Transferred | Promising linebacker stole a dirt bike and transferred out to a JUCO. |
Austin Barron | OL | 2 stars | On Track | Reserve offensive lineman who, like others, didn't redshirt in 2011 due to crazy offensive line injuries. Could start in 2014. |
The 2012 recruiting class | ||||
Eddie Goldman | DT | 5 stars | On Track | The top defensive tackle in the country looks to have a promising career ahead of him. |
Jameis Winston | QB | 5 stars | On Track | The top dual-threat QB in the country looks to have a promising career ahead of him. Redshirted in 2012. Could start in 2013. Also plays baseball. |
Mario Edwards | DE | 5 stars | On Track | The top strong-side defensive end nationally came in a bit overweight, but worked his way into shape and played well down the stretch. Will start in 2013. |
Ukeme Eligwe | LB | 4 stars | On Track | Very athletic linebacker. Redshirted in 2012 after a wrist injury. |
Chris Casher | DE | 4 stars | On Track | Very promising defensive end redshirted after a knee injury. Will contend for a starting job in 2013. |
Mario Pender | RB | 4 stars | On Track | Redshirted after multiple injuries in 2012, including a groin injury. |
Ronald Darby | DB | 4 stars | On Track | ACC defensive freshman of the year will strongly contend for a starting cornerback job in 2013. |
Christo Kourtzidis | TE | 4 stars | On Track | Promising tight end recruit should see much more playing time in 2013. Has added significant muscle. |
P.J. Williams | DB | 4 stars | On Track | Versatile defensive back recruit should eventually turn into a starter. |
Colin Blake | DB | 4 stars | On Track | Redshirted 2012 after injury. |
Marvin Bracy | WR | 4 stars | On Track | Maybe the fastest man in college football. Redshirted in 2012 after a hamstring injury. |
Reggie Northrup | LB | 4 stars | On Track | Very promising linebacker recruit will contend for a starting job. Excellent balance. |
Justin Shanks | DT | 4 stars | On Track | Shanks redshirted and improved a lot during 2012, losing roughly 40 pounds. |
Daniel Glauser | OL | 3 stars | Complete | Glauser was expected to have two years of eligibility, but the NCAA granted him just one after ruling that his time in Switzerland accounted for more than he first thought. Started two games and was a reserve. |
Dalvon Stuckey | DT | 3 stars | Did not qualify | Stuckey was a sign-&-place. He was not expected to make it in to Florida State. |
Menelik Watson | OL | 3 stars | Early NFL | Watson exceeded all expectations and was so good that he is now on his way to the NFL. Physical freak who came to Florida State with almost no football experience. JUCO. |
Roberto Aguayo | K | 3 stars | On Track | Reserve kicker who will be the starter in 2013. |
Sean Maguire | QB | 3 stars | On Track | Redshirted 2012 |
Cason Beatty | P | 2 stars | On Track | Beatty struggled for much of 2012 in his first year punting for the Noles. He'll need to be better in year two. |
Ratings via Rivals.com |